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03 Nov 2011 16:23 #6718 by whcherman
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I have a 84 928 s, would like to know if any one knows what the pressure should be. I measured at the fuel filter, and injector rails. It was ~120 psi.

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03 Nov 2011 21:51 #6724 by 928mac
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That seems really high and i do not even know if that is possible from a stock pump.

Could it be that your gauge is bad, the easy way to check is to try with a different gauge (borrow one) and take a picture for us so that we see where the connection is made.

BTW what name should we call you.

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04 Nov 2011 08:28 #6734 by whcherman
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My name is James, and yes I could try another gauge. But what should the pressure be? the only reference I found was 58 psi and 35 gph.
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04 Nov 2011 08:31 #6735 by whcherman
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As taking a picture, my profile say's I cannot make attachments.
James

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05 Nov 2011 11:54 #6744 by 928mac
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whcherman;6890 wrote: As taking a picture, my profile say's I cannot make attachments.
James


Stan can you give James a hand.

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05 Nov 2011 15:06 #6747 by Kiln_Red
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Somewhere around 36psi would be ideal fuel pressure on your '84.

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07 Nov 2011 06:29 #6766 by whcherman
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I tested my gauges, and they are good. this is how i made the connection.
1. removed fuel line exiting the fuel filter.
2. attached gauge to the fuel filter.
3. turned on pump
4.gauge reads greater than 100 psi
5. this is the only reference I could find

Walbro Part Number: GCL606
Minimum Current: 12 Volts
Operating Pressure: 58 PSI
Minimum Flow @ Outlet: 38 GPH High Pressure
Fuel Pump Location: In-Line

6. the reason i began investigating in this manner, because i blew fuel pump relay. and i wanted to see if this was a indication of a bad fuel filter or pump.
but both appear to be good. new relays will be here tomorrow.
James

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07 Nov 2011 07:10 #6767 by whcherman
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www.autoperformanceengineering.com/pics/gsl391.jpg

this would probably be fuel pump spec's. and with zero flow, which was how i measured the psi. it is over 100 psi. but at 60 psi you have established the required flow rate. I believe, I am a chemical engineer not a porsche mechanic, but learning now for 15 yrs.

James

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07 Nov 2011 10:52 #6770 by 928mac
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On the passenger side fuel rail there is a spot to check fuel pressure while the car is running.

This is the normal spot to check pressure so that you can see if the FPR (Fuel pressure regulator) is working right.

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I removed my cats so that the exhaust flows better and I ported the heads and I run 56psi. 50 is lots for a stock engine and more is not better in every case.

I hope this helps but it was more then likely just an old relay.
Most on here replace all the relays and fuses just to be safe.

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07 Nov 2011 12:29 #6773 by srshaw3
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928mac;6899 wrote: Stan can you give James a hand.


It is a member only privilege. I do not find James listed in our membership database.

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07 Nov 2011 12:44 #6776 by 928mac
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Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net;6928 wrote: It is a member only privilege. I do not find James listed in our membership database.


Come on James, loosen up those purse strings and send the $28 big ones ;)

If you want the privilege that is. :rolleyes:

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07 Nov 2011 14:26 #6777 by whcherman
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where do i send it, must have missed that when i registered.

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07 Nov 2011 14:29 #6778 by whcherman
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yes, you are correct. new relays will be here tomorrow. I have already investigate that area on the rail. will measure there tomorrow if the car runs. funny thing it was running fine, I had to change coolant recovery tank, and here I am can't imagine what I could have done wrong on the nuckle buster.

James

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07 Nov 2011 14:54 #6779 by srshaw3
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whcherman;6932 wrote: where do i send it, must have missed that when i registered.


If you want to join the club, the application is online at 928oc.org/signup_information.htm You can print and mail, or fill it out online and pay via Paypal.

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07 Nov 2011 16:11 #6781 by the flying scotsman
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120 psi is wrong.......the WSM states correct pressures and how to proceed page 24-8.....good luck

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07 Nov 2011 19:24 #6784 by whcherman
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I tried using pay pal, i wasnt working. I will send it in the mail. or try again tomorrow.
thanks

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07 Nov 2011 20:01 #6786 by srshaw3
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whcherman;6939 wrote: I tried using pay pal, i wasnt working. I will send it in the mail. or try again tomorrow.
thanks


Curious as to "how" it wasn't working. I hear that now and again, but yet we get many payments via Paypal, including one today. Perhaps there is something I can "fix".

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08 Nov 2011 14:45 #6807 by whcherman
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Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net;6941 wrote: Curious as to "how" it wasn't working. I hear that now and again, but yet we get many payments via Paypal, including one today. Perhaps there is something I can "fix".

I will try pay pall again right now, if i have a problem i would another message

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08 Nov 2011 15:31 #6809 by whcherman
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Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net;6941 wrote: Curious as to "how" it wasn't working. I hear that now and again, but yet we get many payments via Paypal, including one today. Perhaps there is something I can "fix".

Got it done, It was a address problem. sorry
James herman

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09 Nov 2011 09:43 #6827 by whcherman
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Please, some one tell me why I cannot open these files
thank you
james

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09 Nov 2011 09:48 #6828 by 928mac
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whcherman;6982 wrote: Please, some one tell me why I cannot open these files
thank you
james



What Files are you talking about James?

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09 Nov 2011 09:58 #6830 by srshaw3
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whcherman;6982 wrote: Please, some one tell me why I cannot open these files
thank you
james


Because the process to upgrade your membership to "member" is a manual one. I just took care of it, you may need to log out and back in.

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09 Nov 2011 19:52 #6839 by whcherman
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yes, thanks it works now.

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09 Nov 2011 21:00 #6840 by whcherman
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received new fuel pump relay today. after looking at it and comparing to my old one. I see a difference in the electrical schematic. this relay came from vertek, I also checked with autohaus the offered the same one made by kae. although both show a picture of my original. what do you think, should i use it or not? here is the picture. can't attach picture will have to figure this out.

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09 Nov 2011 21:12 #6843 by whcherman
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hopefully the image is here.

Attached files [img]media/attachments/6998=784-fprelays.jpg[/img]

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10 Nov 2011 12:48 #6858 by 928mac
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whcherman;6998 wrote: hopefully the image is here.


Hi James;
yes the picture is there.

Make sure (verify by jumping) that is the fuel pump relay
I need to check on the fuel pump schematic before I can say to much more.
Can you take a pic of the fuse panel and the relay that you are replacing?

BTW I use photo bucket to store my pictures on line. It makes it very easy to post them here as they give you [IMG] links ready to post with.
If you haven’t yet, Google photo bucket and get a free account.

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10 Nov 2011 16:00 #6862 by whcherman
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928mac;7013 wrote: Hi James;
yes the picture is there.

Make sure (verify by jumping) that is the fuel pump relay
I need to check on the fuel pump schematic before I can say to much more.
Can you take a pic of the fuse panel and the relay that you are replacing?

BTW I use photo bucket to store my pictures on line. It makes it very easy to post them here as they give you [IMG] links ready to post with.
If you haven’t yet, Google photo bucket and get a free account.

the relay, that i am replacing is the one on the left. and yes i jumped and fuel pump runs. the schematic on the right is my concern.
James

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11 Nov 2011 15:52 #6886 by whcherman
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got her done, original relay was still good. fuel pressure on the rail 38psi. Found bad ground on the rear of the head on the passenger side.

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